Can I get into UCLA or USC?

This post was written by on January 4, 2009
Posted Under: Higher Education (University +)
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Okay… so I will put down all my info and stuff and I want you to tell me if you think I can get into either UCLA or USC (I know that this is not all of what counts, but please look anyways)

Best individual category SAT = 1870 (630,650,590)
Best test date SAT = 1850 (630,650,570) - (Will be retaking)
SAT II’s = US History-590, Literature-530 (Will be retaking lit and taking Math II)
Junior year AP’s- APUSH = 4, APELC = 3
Senior year AP’s - APGOV, APELC, AP Stats
GPA = 4.1
Rank = 4
National Honor Society Member
California Scholarship Federation Member

Extra Cirriculars…
Varsity Golf MVP 2x, Captain 2x, Rookie of the year, CIF Qualifier
Piano - Member of a National Fraternity group
Class of 2009 class council
City Library Summer Program Volunteer
City Youth Comission Volunteer
Work - City of Monrovia, Admin Services Dept.

Possible majors are either business (administration/management) or law

Things that I will say in my personal statement (This is especially for the privates)
- My Dad was diagnosed with ALS (Lou Gherigs) this past summer
- I was driving in a car accident in which my mom was nearly killed
*Emphasis on how this has given me a greater appreciation for the time and life I have and that I need to make the most of it.

Sorry, but I’m so stressed about this…. Please give me your honest opinions.
Thanks.

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Reader Comments

Leave out the accident deal…it can be interpreted as the result of being reckless.

Now, the main question…nobody except those on the admissions committees can answer whether or not you’ll get in. These are both Top-50 schools and are Extremely Competitive. At U$C, it helps to be a legacy. No externals help at fUCLA.

I have been on many admissions committees…and half the time we couldn’t come to consensus on the color of the sky. Schools want students that will make them proud, hence will graduate, get great jobs, and give craploads of moolah to the good ol’ U.

Good luck.

EDIT: Coreyander is correct. I myself went to a Community College before getting my degree at UC Davis. And don’t let people tell you a community college degree/transfer program is 2nd class. My 2nd class degree resulted in me getting a BA, BS, MA, MPA, and PhD. I also retire at 55 after a career as a professor and psychologist. I actually used to tell my clients to go to community college first…after all, most of the teaching for your first two years at a Research 1 university will be done by Teaching Assistants…many of whom speak broken English, at best.

#1 
Written By Yggdrasil on January 5th, 2009 @ 12:46 am

well, you are definitely not a shoe in, but i think you have a shot.
your test scores are kind of low, but if you can bring them up, that will help. your gpa isnt as high as it could be- some people appying have 4.7. and stats doesnt look as good as calc…
but you really never know

#2 
Written By Roxie on January 6th, 2009 @ 4:55 am

You do know that law is not an undergraduate major, and that UCLA does not have an undergraduate business program?

You would need to improve your SAT score, especially for UCLA, and I don’t know what your unweighted GPA would be. You do have some good extracurricular activities (but please make sure you spell it right in your applications!).

You are not completely out of range, but it would be a long shot with those two extremely competitive schools. Make sure you have some good backups.

#3 
Written By raflorsheim on January 9th, 2009 @ 7:56 am

I can understand why you are stressed; college admissions is stressful almost by design!

It is hard to gauge just by looking at the weighted GPA, but it does look like your grades may be a little low given the prevailing GPAs of admitted students at these two schools. I would also consider retaking the SAT and SAT IIs if there is time and you think the scores would improve. That said, admissions boards are notoriously mysterious — you can never tell who they will accept and who they won’t. It is, unfortunately, part of the reason why this is all so stressful. It does mean, though, that you definitely have a chance of making this work!

One thing to consider, although I imagine you have, is whether or not UCLA and USC are the only (or the best) schools out there for you. Both are very large schools with excellent reputations, but not necessarily for undergraduate education specifically. If you have ambitions of law or grad school, you might also look at some smaller schools where you will have ready access to professors (not just TAs), small class sizes, etc. Of course, picking a college is very much a matter of personal preference; I just recommend making sure that you are picking a school based on its individual merits, not just its name, reputation, or athletic performance.

Anyway, if you have a major in mind, make sure that it exists at each school! Business and administration are not majors at UCLA, but economics and business economics are somewhat allied fields that are offered as a major. Likewise, there is no pre-law major at UCLA, but there are a variety of majors in the social sciences that are appropriate if you plan to go to law school. If you want to present yourself as having a long term plan, try to be specific about how you wish to reach those goals - it will make you seem prepared and ready to make your goals happen. If you can show that you have significantly improved yourself over time (i.e. your grades improved over time, you became more socially involved, etc.), try to indicate that in your essay.

Now, the last bit of advice I have is sort of advice-you-don’t-really-want-but-is- nevertheless-pretty-helpful. That is, it is advice for dealing with the worst case scenario: you don’t get accepted to either school on the first shot. If this happens (and I’m not saying I think it will), you can still make it into UCLA through a community college transfer. Something like a 1/3 of incoming UCLA students are transfers from CCs (from West LA college and SMC mostly) and, to be perfectly honest, it is a bit easier to get admitted as a community college transfer than as a high school senior. If you do two years at CC, you can transfer in as a sophomore or junior and end up with a full bachelor’s degree from UCLA. A lot of my students (and, for that matter, a lot of my favorite students) wound up at UCLA this way, so you should definitely keep this in mind as a back-up option.

Sorry for this incredibly long answer! Good luck with everything and keep your chin up!!

#4 
Written By coreyander on January 10th, 2009 @ 1:00 am

i think
UCLA-match
USC-high match/low reach

Your test score is low for USC, but your GPA and rank are excellent, and you should be ELC which will help with UCLA. I’m sorry to hear about your father and mother.

Good luck with your process

#5 
Written By omegared179 on January 11th, 2009 @ 11:10 pm

Though your SAT score is low you have a pretty decent GPA and great extracurriculars. If you write a good personal statement, that score can be overlooked.

#6 
Written By glo on January 15th, 2009 @ 4:42 am

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